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Illegal deployment of FDH
Posted by kittycat2 (209 days ago)
Does anyone know of a case when an employer/helper has actually been caught? Half the shops where I live are staffed by Indonesian 'helpers', and there are plenty of p-t cleaners working on DH contracts.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
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Posted by Adfundum (209 days ago)
i was find 38k and my ex PT was jailed for 3 month and finally deported with now way to return. since that i have a local PT which is anyway much better in performance.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by kittycat2 (209 days ago)
But how was she (and/or you) caught? I see this happening so often that I don't know how helpers can be so happy to do it (money or not, jail is jail).
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by gdbill (208 days ago)
There is a hotline where you can call and make an anonymous report. Neighbors can rat you out easily.
(I am based in Guangzhou)
Posted by kittycat2 (208 days ago)
Oooh, that's mean.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by gdbill (207 days ago)
^ Moral of the story: Get along with your neighbors.
(I am based in Guangzhou)
Posted by dasia (205 days ago)
The Govt pays $100 for reporting illegal part tim workers. It has been known for building security personnel to report the illegal worker.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by Jessica L (205 days ago)
I have a friend who was fined after ringing one off the domestic helper part time ads off the welcome boards.
The immigration department had put it there to catch people that planned to hire part time helpers.
I was so shocked but it did happen and it was a hefty fine at that!
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by inayatshoiab (203 days ago)
the helpers has no choice,they cant say no to emplyers
if they did they have to look for a new contract
its not easy to find a new contract for helpers
but its very easy to find new helper for employer
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by adele78 (202 days ago)
Jessica L - I can't believe they can get away with that...that's entrapment!
(I am based in Unspecified)
Posted by gdbill (199 days ago)
Never heard of that happening, but it wouldn't be wise to assume that HK laws has the same definition of entrapment as in other countries.
(I am based in Guangzhou)
Posted by miming (198 days ago)
for DH working for shops that could be too risky but for DH working for PT havent heard about being caught.I think ID really didnt take it as serious offence,no one really cares.Look around Discovery Bay as many helpers working based on PT for so many years havent heard anyone of them being caught by IDs.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by GreenValleys (195 days ago)
One poster above has stated that he/she was caught and fined, plus there was a much-publicised case in 2002-2003 with pretty much the same outcome. So it DOES happen, albeit rarely. The fact that it seems to happen so rarely doesn't alter the fact that it is illegal and there are risks associated with breaking any law. I often jaywalk (careful not to put myself or anyone else at risk) and often in full view of some of HK's finest. Never have they as much as givenme a second glance, but one day they might throw the book at me - and I'll have only myslf to blame for breaking the law.
(I am based in Jakarta)
Posted by merm (191 days ago)
There are plenty of filipinos and thais who live in their own lawless world. If more and more of them get used to doing whatever they want, it'll become and is already becoming a very difficult problem for the police and the rest of the law abiding host community.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
Posted by kittycat2 (191 days ago)
But surely the police should have better things to do with their time than harass the very people that keep HK running smoothly? And let's not forget that this 'law abiding host community' has a bit of a reputation for blatantly breaking the labour laws w/ regard to minimum pay, public holidays etc.
(I am based in Hong Kong)
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